On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:10 AM Mat Booth <fed...@matbooth.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 13:26, Petr Pisar <ppi...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 01:44:07PM +0200, Daniel Mach wrote:
> > > There's a Modularity Improvements Objective draft available[1].
> > >
> > > The Objective summarizes the work that is in progress already as well as
> > > highlights our plans for Fedora 34.
> > >
> > > We're planning to fix the current modularity in Fedora 33 and 34.
> > > We may look into alternatives or bigger design changes in Fedora 35 and
> > > later.
> > >
> > > You can find more details in the Objective document[1].
> > >
> > > - Daniel
> > >
> > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/Modularity_Improvements_2020
> >
> > I hope that you find resources to properly maintain MBS. Currently (last two
> > weeks) it cannot build the modules
> > <https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9066>.
> >
> > -- Petr
>
> I opened this ticket more than two months ago. :-(
>
> What's *worse* is that before I filed that infra ticket I filed this
> ticket [1] at the MBS upstream project and that got *absolutely* no
> response. Complete silence. In fact *no* ticket reported there haven't
> seen any activity in months. Not exactly confidence inspiring for the
> future of the project.
>
> [1] https://pagure.io/fm-orchestrator/issue/1640
>
> I've tried *so* hard to get on board with modularity but I think I'm
> done with modules now in Fedora.
>
> In the early days the people who maintained MBS were super helpful and
> worked hard to fix the bugs I found in it, but now it feels like those
> days are gone and still it's just hurdle after hurdle. All I want is
> an easy life, and I thought modules were that, but it's impossible to
> get anything done in a timely manner, builds have required so much
> babysitting, the MBS requiring (already scarce) releng resources to
> intervene periodically.... Honestly, it's been just exhausting and
> demoralising how many man-hours have gone to waste. So I've pulled all
> my packages back into mainline Fedora since that seems to be the path
> of least resistance even though I will once again have to maintain
> multiple branches of my whole stack of packages.
>
> Interesting experiment, maybe, but if there's going to be no
> commitment to pay the on-going cost of infra maintenance and fix the
> design-flaws or whatever serious problem is currently holding back
> MBS, then I have to end the experiment for my own sanity at least.
>

Unfortunately, MBS is maintained by a different team: the team that
maintains Koji. I am unsure about what they're planning to do, but I
hope they're going to do *something*.


-- 
真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth!
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