On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 at 18:05, Neal Becker <ndbeck...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think if we really want to advocate for btrfs, we also should provide
> the
> tools to take full advantage of it.  I've been using btrfs since it was
> offered as an option on Fedora.  On Ubuntu, there is a tool "snapper" to
> help manage snapshots.  Unfortunately I didn't manage to get this setup on
> Fedora.  A tool like this would really enhance the btrfs experience, I
> believe.
>
> It's been a while, but I think the reason I didn't get snapper running on
> my
> system is that the arrangement of btrfs subvolumes didn't match the
> default
> ubuntu used.  I have 2 subvolumes, 1 for root and 1 for home.
>

I think it's a great idea and if it's possible to adapt Ubuntu's snapper or
OpenSUSE's solution
(afaik, they have it as a feature within YaST2 and snapshots are taken
prior to each update).
that would make our lives easier. A 1-click GNOME3 integration (through
Files, for instance?)
would be the icing on the cake.

>
> A primary use of snapshots would be to snapshot just before system update,
> so update could easily be rolled back.  This could also be helpful for
> large
> updates within the user directory, for example, using pip to update
> packages.
>

As mentioned above, the way OpenSUSE does it. However, I agree that
snapshots are
more useful when taken intentionally. On updates, a single automatic
corrupted snapshot can
potentially hose the entire snapshotted volume. Also, if your system is
almost broken after the change,
no snapshot will help.

Best,
Andy
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