On Friday, July 10, 2020 4:12:42 AM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:
> On 7/10/20 5:06 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> 
> > The problem IOT side is not the security of the
> > software update chain. The problem is that manufacturers skimp on
> > software updates in the first place
> 
> 
> Yes, that's the situation right now: everyone has a custom firmware tied 
> to a short product cycle---so new versions and fixes have to be 
> developed separately by everyone. This does not scale, and so it doesn't 
> happen most of the time. I think the only long-term solution is a wide 
> use of platforms, such as Android or Fedora.
> 
> My point is that however the updates are being produced, they need a 
> secure remote update method. It's not realistic to expect end users to 
> be in the loop---it doesn't scale to the size the IOT is going to be. 
> Moreover, without the secure method, any vulnerability can be easily 
> converted to persistent breakage.
> 
> Android, actually, is trying to get it right by a) being a platform so 
> that common security updates are available from the platform owner, and 
> can be applied to everyone's system and b) having a secure remote update 
> method.

The problem with implementing systems such as this is obvious.. If the end 
user cannot upload their own firmware, because the host has a hardware 
mechanism for checking the signature of the firmware, that's not good for the 
end user, it's harmful. It would mean they don't actually own the system, the 
vendor does.

-- 
John M. Harris, Jr.

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