On Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 16:04 Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 9:57 AM Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@gnome.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > (fixing the subject line to not mention nano)
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 5:16 am, alexandrebfar...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Don't expect much love on this, since my opinion has been downvoted
> > > on reddit by many of those who don't want to hear bad news about
> > > btrfs. And no, I don't have any benchmarks and did not collect any
> > > logs, I'm not talking about a bug, BTRFS is defective beyond anything
> > > Fedora could do to fix it. After spending so much time fighting
> > > against my system
> >
> > Well the btrfs change proposal exists to improve the user experience.
> > User experience is the overriding goal behind everything we do. I've
> > just finished wading through the rest of the btrfs discussion, finding
> > most concerns about the filesystem not very compelling... but your
> > experience with btrfs is concerning to me. It seems you suffered from a
> > serious I/O performance issue. Since one of the goals of this proposal
> > is to *improve* system responsiveness under heavy load, it should go
> > without saying that we don't want to introduce noticeable performance
> > issues. I wonder if the change owners have any idea what might have
> > gone wrong for Alexandre? Is this something we could attempt to
> > reproduce and measure (if Alexandre is willing to do some further
> > testing to put numbers on the problem)?
> >
> > Alexandre, if you could provide an estimate of approximately when this
> > happened (approximate kernel version)...?
> >
>
> I would definitely be interested in more data here, but from what I
> read, it *seems* like that WD Blue SSD is wonkier than it should be.
> When I first looked at SSDs three years ago, I'd see weird performance
> behavior like that depending on brand and model. I can't prove
> anything in this case because I don't know anything about that SSD,
> nor do I have any logs or ability to diagnose it (or even that
> particular SSD device on hand), but I'd be concerned about the drive
> maybe having a fault. One of the reasons I recommend Samsung EVO SSDs
> is because they have been consistently reliable for me across several
> generations.
>
> But, I just don't know enough to provide a good answer here.


>From what I remember about Android Studio / Simulator, it uses qemu and
disk images under the hood. Setting the nodatacow attribute (chattr +C, I
think?) on VM images should improve performance by a fair bit.

Maybe libvirt / gnome-boxes / virt-manager should do that by default if it
detects that the backing storage for an allocated VM image is on btrfs (if
it doesn't do that already)?

Fabio



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