On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:07 PM Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 10:36 AM Michal Srb <m...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 4:29 PM Bill Chatfield via devel <
> devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I may take it as soon as I figure out how.
> >>
> >> But, if you're building a Java app, you probably use Maven to build it,
> so Maven is going to download from mavencentral, not the version packaged
> in Fedora. So I'm beginning to wonder how useful the packaged apps are. Am
> I missing something?
> >
> >
> > Packaged Java apps are useful, but packaged libraries (if not used by
> any Java app in the distribution) not so much. Nobody's going to develop
> anything against them. Like you said, developers will fetch what they need
> from Maven Central.
> >
>
> If we don't have packaged libraries, nobody can ship packaged
> applications. And there are definitely cases where people develop
> against packaged Java libraries. I used to work in one such case.
> Nowadays I live primarily in the Python ecosystem, and I can live
> entirely in packaged libraries there too. It'd be nice to have this
> again for Java.
>
>
This is more complicated and it would probably deserve a separate thread :)
Java and Python are completely different ecosystems. And Java ecosystem
(apps/libs) is just inherently unfriendly to Linux distributions. It's not
necessary bad or broken - it's just different.

I am curious: what was the reason to develop against the packaged Java
libraries?

Thanks,
Michal


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