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> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:44:37 +0000
> From: Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: gcc 10: Default to -fno-common, multiple definitions of
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> To: l...@redhat.com,     Development discussions related to Fedora
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> > > I proposed a change to redhat-rpm-config to handle this case by
> > allowing  package to add a single line to their .spec file to turn off
> > the new common symbol handling.  Igor rejected that change arguing that
> > the packages themselves should be fixed.
> 
> Ultimately yes they should be fixed, but giving a means of easily
> mitigating the problem while people work with upstream to fix the
> issues is also useful, it's been a problem for ever and expecting
> people to fix it in short order is problematic especially when they'll
> start to be deluged in FTBFS spam within moments of the mass rebuild.
That was the idea.   Provide a trivial opt-out so that upstreams had
time to fix properly.  I even volunteered to add the opt-out marker
where appropriate to minimize the FTBFS issues.  I also volunteered to
help with the packages that don't honor flags injection.

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> It might also be handy for there to be a heads up bug when the
> toolchain team first discovers these sorts of issues to give a longer
> runway for people to be able to engage with upstream to get a fix.
I contacted ffesti about 6 weeks ago -- shortly after the commit went
upstream GCC and I'd consulted with the SuSE engineers about how they
were planning to handle this situation.  Sadly I got no response
whatsoever from ffesti.

Jeff



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