On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 1:22 AM Kamil Dudka <kdu...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Monday, January 13, 2020 5:59:49 AM CET Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 9:39 PM Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 07:15:39PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This might be a bad idea. But I'm looking for better ideas than status
> > > > quo.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A known problem is upgraded systems get crusty over time. Maybe folks
> > > > should clean install more often, yet they don't.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If there's a new good idea, but it's a short term solution, the fact
> > > > it'll
> > > > live forever acts as a deterrent to implementing it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What if there were an autoremove for anything older than Fedora n-2,
> > > > that
> > > > is, keep current plus last two releases? i.e. for upgrades to Fedora
> > > > 33,
> > > > keep stale packages from 33, 32, and 31.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Or another idea?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, we already have fedora-obsolete-packages. That should handlle this
> > > case no? Folks who want to have obsolete things removed can make sure to
> > > have fedora-obsolete-packages installed and it should obsolete those.
> >
> >
> > It's not installed by default. Should it be?
>
> Nope.  It could cause dependencies of 3rd party SW to be unexpectedly removed.

I understand the path of least resistance with upgrades. They're
better off being upgraded, even if they silently have sale bits no
longer upgraded. From a security perspective, I think being silent
about that is not great.

But what I'm getting at is not an upgrade that gets them a system
nearly identical to a clean install, but rather removing things that
really should be removed.

-- 
Chris Murphy
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