On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote:

>Fabio Valentini wrote:
>> Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG?
>
>IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form the 
>current remains of the Java SIG and create a new Java SIG from scratch that 
>actually cares about packaging Java properly in and for (non-modular) 
>Fedora.

Great, you eliminate the remaining members of the Java SIG (those who
didn't go running away because forcing Java stuff into RPMs was too
painful).

Now where are you going to get new members to create this new Java
SIG?

I mean, the Java SIG isn't forcing Java packagers to use Modularity,
so that isn't why the Java SIG is dying.

The only reason modularity is an issue is because no one else wants to
maintain Java packages in the first place.
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