On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:17 AM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kof...@chello.at> wrote:
> Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > So people would prefer no packages at all over packages in modules? > > I see 2 reasons so far why some packages are module-only: > 1. because a dependency of the package is module-only. That is exactly what > we want to prevent by proposing a ban on module-only packages. > 2. because the maintainer wants to maintain only one version and chose the > modular one. Banning module-only packages will hopefully get the > maintainer to either maintain the non-modular version instead or to > maintain both versions after all. > Here you seem to be missing the third option packager may choose - maintain none of them and say bye to Fedora. Which IMHO is the most likely outcome of all this. > > > I ask this as the traditional rpm way of doing is simply not working and > > that's the reason why many of us (old time Java packagers) just gave up, > > it's purely impossible to satisfy the needs of multiple "major" packages > > with same set of dependencies. > > It is very much possible, just ship parallel-installable compatibility > packages. For Java JARs, you can simply ship the non-default versions as > name-version.jar (which is actually how most upstreams ship their binaries > as well) rather than just name.jar, then they won't conflict. (Of course, > the package name has to be suffixed with the version as well, as for all > compatibility packages.) > > Using modules for that purpose is broken by design because you are just > pushing the problem from the packager to the end user, who will not be > able > to install the 2 unrelated packages on the same machine due to conflicting > dependencies. > > Kevin Kofler > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse Team
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