On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:42:33AM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:39:20 AM MST Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 05:05:51PM +0000, John M. Harris, Jr. wrote:
> > > There is a difference between ignoring proprietary software, and providing
> > > installation methods for it in the distro. It is against the first of the
> > > Four Foundations, Freedom, to include these repositories. It's one thing
> > > if the user seeks out the software and installs it themselves, it's
> > > another if we're baiting them into installing software that does not
> > > provide the four Essential Freedoms.
> > > 
> > > Not only that, but we can make no guarantee as to the state of these repos
> > > or the state of the software, as it is proprietary. This is also a
> > > potential issue for Fedora Legal.
> > As noted upthread, this policy was approved by the Fedora Council and
> > definitely passed through Fedora Legal.
> > 
> > I understand that some folks disagree, but I don't think re-litigating
> > it at this point is very productive unless there's some new information
> > that has come to light.
> > 
> > kevin
> 
> I can't see where recommending *proprietary* software was approved, only 
> third 
> party software.

proprietary software is a subset of third party software right?

One of the early drivers of this discussion as I recall was chrome,
which is definitely a third party software that is also proprietary.

Anyhow, I guess if the workstation working group hasn't answered things
to your satisfaction, you're welcome to open a council ticket and ask
them to clarify. 

kevin

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