I already used Python 3.7.3 in Windows OS and is very good.

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 8:20 PM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 02. 07. 19 17:58, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:02 PM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 01. 07. 19 16:21, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:34 AM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 28. 06. 19 0:51, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 18:49, Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com
> >>>>> <mailto:ngomp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        > What about postponing this change to F32? I'd prefer
> python2 to be
> >>>>>        > retired and gone from the distro first, and the symlink and
> >>>>>        > %python_provide definition only switched then. I think that
> having
> >>>>>        > this middle state where python2 is available but python
> points to
> >>>>>        > python3 for exactly one release will be more confusing that
> switching
> >>>>>        > directly to the final state where python2 is gone and
> python simply
> >>>>>        > means python3.
> >>>>>        >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       I think it makes sense to make the switch before we retire,
> because
> >>>>>       then people's expectations are changed ahead of time and they
> can
> >>>>>       adapt to The Future(TM).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Actually I think it makes more sense that F31 provides no
> /usr/bin/python. Then
> >>>>> a lot of things which depend on it can be found and fixed since they
> have not
> >>>>> adapted to the Future any other way.
> >>>>
> >>>> We've been actively forbidding packagers doing that for more than a
> year.
> >>>> Most packages that still require /usr/bin/python are either:
> >>>>
> >>>>     * FTBFS since Fedora 28 (and I will make sure we follow the
> policy this time
> >>>> and finally kill those)
> >>>>
> >>>> or
> >>>>
> >>>>     * willingly workarounded by the packagers who tend to ignore all
> our
> >>>> recommendations (nothing we can really do here)
> >>>>
> >>>> Totally that is 10 runtime dependent packages and 64 buildtime.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If we take away /usr/bin/python and "python" provide, those things
> won't resolve.
> >>>>
> >>>> If we change it to Python 3, some of them might work, most of them
> probably
> >>>> won't. Some of them are broken already (like
> >>>>
> >>>> $ (repoquery --repo=rawhide-source --whatrequires python; repoquery
> >>>> --repo=rawhide-source --whatrequires python-unversioned-command;
> repoquery
> >>>> --repo=rawhide-source --whatrequires /usr/bin/python) | pkgname |
> sort | uniq
> >>>> audit
> >>>> bibus
> >>>> bitfrost
> >>>> blitz
> >>>> claws-mail
> >>>> coan
> >>>> crun
> >>>> distro-info
> >>>> distro-info-data
> >>>> dracut-modules-olpc
> >>>> dtrx
> >>>> gcc
> >>>> gnome-python2-desktop
> >>>> graphite2
> >>>> grass
> >>>> gwebsockets
> >>>> htop
> >>>> hyperscan
> >>>> cherrytree
> >>>> chocolate-doom
> >>>> json4s
> >>>> kcov
> >>>> libclc
> >>>> libtaskotron
> >>>> liquidwar
> >>>> maxima
> >>>> mchange-commons
> >>>> mingw-qt5-qtdeclarative
> >>>> mingw-wine-gecko
> >>>> mongo-c-driver
> >>>> mozc
> >>>> offlineimap
> >>>> olpc-contents
> >>>> olpc-os-builder
> >>>> perl-Plack
> >>>> planner
> >>>> python-rospkg
> >>>> qtwebkit
> >>>> qt5-qtdeclarative
> >>>> sbt
> >>>> seamonkey
> >>>> sugar-base
> >>>> sugar-castle
> >>>> sugar-deducto
> >>>> sugar-flip
> >>>> sugar-jukebox
> >>>> sugar-kuku
> >>>> sugar-measure
> >>>> sugar-pippy
> >>>> sugar-srilanka
> >>>> sugar-starchart
> >>>> sugar-toolkit
> >>>> sugar-yupana
> >>>> swift-lang
> >>>> tarantool
> >>>> termy-qt
> >>>> twitter-twemoji-fonts
> >>>> uboot-tools
> >>>> udis86
> >>>> vdsm
> >>>> vte
> >>>> wesnoth
> >>>> wine-mono
> >>>> 0ad
> >>>>
> >>>> $ (repoquery --repo=rawhide --whatrequires python; repoquery
> --repo=rawhide
> >>>> --whatrequires python-unversioned-command; repoquery --repo=rawhide
> >>>> --whatrequires /usr/bin/python) | pkgname | sort | uniq
> >>>> gwebsockets
> >>>> icaro
> >>>> pyqt-mail-checker
> >>>> qct
> >>>> redhat-lsb-languages
> >>>> resiprocate-turn-server-psql
> >>>> sugar
> >>>> sugar-toolkit
> >>>> vdsm
> >>>> vdsm-yajsonrpc
> >>>
> >>> I fixed the following up:
> >>> uboot-tools
> >>> gnome-python2-desktop
> >>> gwebsockets
> >>> sugar
> >>> sugar-base
> >>> sugar-castle
> >>> sugar-deducto
> >>> sugar-flip
> >>> sugar-jukebox
> >>> sugar-kuku
> >>> sugar-measure
> >>> sugar-pippy
> >>> sugar-srilanka
> >>> sugar-starchart
> >>> sugar-toolkit
> >>> sugar-yupana
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>> The following are FTB due to someone retiring Pyrex out from under
> >>> them without notifying me (there's been a number of py2 packages that
> >>> have had that happen) so they're going to take a bit longer.
> >>> bitfrost
> >>> dracut-modules-olpc
> >>> olpc-contents
> >>> olpc-os-builder
> >>
> >> I've notified you at least 3 times:
> >>
> >>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4LKL4NAQZOF6ETC62IKEP5KWGSI5PUNA/
> >>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/23I5LPSAYL3OFR5UNEKFLZKPGCRBLVYC/
> >>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/X77IOA2RE3KADMMVPISYSESA3KYJ2UFR/
> >
> > Do you cc: affected people on those? I was on PTO and traveling in the
> > window of the messages you link there so they probably got lost in the
> > million other devel@ and related emails, it's easy enough for them to
> > get lost if you don't have an explicit notification it's something you
> > should be paying attention too.
>
> I bcc all the listed people. The lists don't like dozens of recipients.
>
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