On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 09:59 Panu Matilainen <pmati...@redhat.com wrote:

> On 1/2/19 7:52 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> >>>>>> "FV" == Fabio Valentini <decatho...@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > FV> - unless those other, main icon theme packages have also added
> > FV> %transfiletrigger* scriptlets, like I've done for elementary and
> > FV> Paper.
> >
> > Perhaps it should be mandatory for icon themes to add the necessary file
> > triggers so that no package will ever need to have a scriptlet which
> > calls gtk-update-icon-cache.
> >
> > In general I think that the distro as a whole should pivot towards
> > official, guideline-codified scriptlet avoidance, such that adding
> > appropriate file triggers should be mandatory where it avoids the need
> > for packages down the dependency chain to have scriptlets.  I'm sure
> > there are a number of places where this could be done.  Having this as a
> > distro-wide goal would make it easier to get changes like the glibc
> > ldconfig file triggers implemented (which took years to get the current
> > incomplete implementation pushed).
>
> +1
>
> Ultimately the goal should be making the "traditional" scriptlets
> extinct to the point that using them requires an exception.
>
> I've no illusions here, it's going to be a long long road and require
> further enhancements to rpm (for example dealing with users and groups)
> but that's what the long-term overall goal should be.


I was wondering about the case of users and groups in scriptlets. Something
I would like to investigate next time I dedicate free time to Fedora is
conditional and one-shot services with systemd.

Maybe some of that complexity could move from the package manager to the
service manager. For the use case I have in mind it's definitely the
service that wants the user and group, because none of the installed files
need them. It's only a runtime requirement for the service.

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