On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:59 PM Ben Cotton <bcot...@redhat.com> wrote:

> I want to address a few comments in particular:
>
> > Kevin Fenzi:
> > I'm prefer to add a new milestone of 'day before release' and put it
> > there.
>
> The current schedule starts the "create the release announcement" on
> the day of the Go/No-Go meeting. I don't think that makes much sense:
> the announcement can be pre-written and edited to track changes in
> release dates or Changes status. I'll go ahead and move that to *end*
> on the Go/No-Go day. My concern remains what happens if the
> announcement isn't ready by the deadline? We either proceed like we've
> done in the past and risk a rush to publish at the end, or we declare
> the release No-Go, in which case there's no practical difference from
> what I propose.
>
> > Adam Williamson (out of order)
> > 1. I'm fine with the overall release process blocking, in some sense,
> > on things like release announcements not being done.
> >
> > 3. The Go/No-Go meeting is not necessarily the best place to decide on
> > this, but I'm open to it being chosen.
>
> The Go/No-Go meeting is the only real decision point we have, so IMO
> it makes sense to add this in there. The Release Readiness Meeting is
> more informative than decision-making (although it sounds like it may
> be time to revisit that meeting more broadly, so maybe we change
> this?)
>
> > More Adam Williamson
> > 2. I believe this should **NOT** be handled through the things actually
> > called the "Fedora Release Criteria" and the process for nominating and
> > reviewing "release blocker" bugs.
>
> Agreed. To be clear, that is not what I am proposing. I've probably
> been sloppy in my wording, but I'm thinking of this as a criterion
> exclusively for the Go/No-Go process.
>
> > Mohan Boddu
> > I guess we can just consider as a soft criteria and if its not ready, we
> will just ask
> people to help marketing team and get the article ready by Friday or
> Monday.
>
> Right. If it's "close" (for some value of close) then Marketing can
> say they are go and get it finished by Monday. Of course, the
> counter-argument to this is that a squishy criterion that we can just
> accept if we want to isn't much of a criterion.
>

I like this.  I read this as we are "no-go" if marketing is no-go.  If they
are "go" and we don't like their definition of go, let's take it up with
them when it happens.

regards,

bex

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