Hi,

as CUPS maintainer, I agree with the idea of working printing as beta
criteria for Fedora.

I have two printers (Canon, HP) at my disposal, which I test cups,
cups-filters and hplip on when they have rebase. IMO it would be perfect
if such tests can be run every time when a component, which CUPS
requires, have an update - this way I could get know of glibc change or
nsswitch change sooner...

I can cover two printer driver software, hplip and foomatic-db+foomatic
with this testing (at least for these two printer models), but I would
need other printers for others (like gutenprint, foo2zjs, not mention
3rd party ones like brother, lexmark, epson) and especially a printer
which is capable of driver-less printing (like IPP everywhere standard,
or Airprint), which is the newest way how to install printers (I mean
most printers with release date after 2010). It would be great that we
can test it out too...

This way I would like to reach who they have such printers and asked
them for cooperation with testing - preferably on every cups update test
if printer works as it should.

According cups-pdf, which is different project and isn't under my
maintenance, I'm not sure, but I'm CCing cups-pdf maintainer, if he can
say more about it. The same can be said about ghostscript - it should be
tested properly too.

On 9/20/18 4:21 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 7:50 AM Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com
> <mailto:sgall...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 9:47 AM Ben Cotton <bcot...@redhat.com
>     <mailto:bcot...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:33 AM Stephen Gallagher
>     <sgall...@redhat.com <mailto:sgall...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>     > >
>     > > I'd like to propose that we add the following criteria to Beta
>     for Fedora 30+:
>     > > * Printing must work on at least one printer available to
>     Fedora QA.
>     > > "Work" is defined as the output from the device matching a preview
>     > > shown on the GNOME print preview display. (Note that
>     differences in
>     > > color reproduction are not considered "non-working".)
>     > >
>     > +1 to this
>     >
>     > > and this to Final for Fedora 30+:
>     > > * Printing must work on at least one printer using each of the
>     > > following drivers:
>     > > (I don't know which ones to specify here, but we ought to try to
>     > > figure out a cross-section that covers a large swath of our
>     expected
>     > > user base).
>
>
>
> Print to file (PDF) is available by default and should be in the list. 
> " work" means
> - creates a file that, when opened with the default PDF reader and in
> Firefox using its built-in PDF support, is reasonably similar to
> the preview shown on the GNOME print preview display.
>
> As for a real printer, I suggest limiting it to an IPP Everywhere
> printer (any make and model), also known as driverless printing.
>
> Otherwise you can quickly get stuck in the mud.
>
>
>
>      So I'd suggest that this criteria
>     essentially means "We block if it is *known* to fail".
>
>
>
> +1
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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