Hi Bastien,

Here are some of the benefits I see of this effort as compared to simply
telling users to consume Flatpaks from Flathub or independent repositories:

* Benefit to Flaptak users on all distributions: more applications are
available more quickly. Some applications will be much easier to create
Flatpaks of this way because of their build dependencies. For lightly
maintained, older applications, building a Flatpak of an RPM within Fedora
is simple and avoids creating another independent place that someone has to
keep an eye on.
* Benefit to Flatpak users on all distributions: this works towards having
a runtime (whether Fedora or RHEL/CentOS based) that has a  long lifetime
and strong security update guarantees
* Benefit to Fedora users: they can get Flatpaks and runtimes from a source
they already have trust in.
* Benefit to Fedora users: this is a repository of Flaptaks we can enable
by default (there are ongoing discussions of splitting up Flathub, but
currently it combines both content that Fedora can point users to, and
content that is problematical from a legal or Free Software point of view,
all mixed together.)
* Benefit to Fedora contributors: they can work within the community and
infrastructure they are already familiar with to fill gaps in the set of
available Flatpaks.
* Benefit to Fedora contributors: they can make their packaging work
available across distributions and distribution versions.
* Benefit to upstream: if they already have a good relationship with Fedora
and their application is well maintained there, they can point users on all
distributions to a  Fedora Flatpak.
* Benefit to Red Hat: We build infrastructure technology and content that
we can take into the RHEL context and make runtimes and Flatpaks available
to our customers with the type of guarantees that we are already providing
for RPM content.

LIke many things we do in Fedora, the benefit to RHEL is a big reason that
we've been doing this work, and was an influence in some of decisions about
how things were implemented, but I think the work does stand on its own as
useful to the Fedora and Flatpak communities.

Regards,
Owen



On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Bastien Nocera <bnoc...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hey Owen,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > I'd like to invite Fedora contributors to start creating Flatpaks of
> > graphical applications in Fedora. We're still working on putting the
> final
> > pieces into place to have a complete story from end to end, but it's
> > definitely close enough to get started.
>
> As discussed earlier in both mailing-lists and face-to-face, I'd like to
> know
> why this is interesting for either upstream or downstream developers.
>
> Who is the target for this feature, why does it make sense for packagers to
> package within Fedora (or eventually CentOS, or RHEL), rather than
> upstream,
> whether in Flathub or an independent repository?
>
> I can expand on what I think are the benefits for Fedora, and its
> downstreams,
> but that would require making guesses at roadmaps that I don't have a view
> into.
>
> Cheers
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