2018-04-04 8:51 GMT-06:00 James Hogarth <james.hoga...@gmail.com>:

> On 4 April 2018 at 14:48, William Moreno
> <williamjmore...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2018-04-03 13:11 GMT-06:00 Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:01 PM Christian Glombek <c...@petersen-glombek.de
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been
> >>> shipped in the rpms thus far. Although I'm not sure how this affects
> major
> >>> updates, it is leading to problems elsewhere (i.e. people have to
> uninstall
> >>> some apps on v13 and re-install them on v13.0.1 for them to work
> again).
> >>>
> >>> And how many people actually still run NC v10?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Given the current status, I suggest you just ask FESCo to give you
> >> permission to release 13.x without supporting upgrades from 10.x and
> then
> >> submit a Magazine article explaining the situation once 13.x is
> landing. As
> >> far as the bundling question; that's actually fair game these days as
> long
> >> as your packages have a virtual `Provides: bundled(packagename) =
> <version>`
> >> in the specfile so if we needed to locate packages for security issues,
> it
> >> can be done. So if you wanted to package the intermediate versions(*)
> with
> >> bundled libs to get people through the upgrade, that's an option too.
> >>
> >>
> > +1 should be a nice changes for the F29 release.
> >
>
>
> To make it absolutely 100% clear this is totally 100% not going to
> happen .... no.
>
> Today I've spent time between $realwork getting my ansible plays
> updated to handle F28 (thanks for dropping python2-* early guys!) and
> have been in contact with lorbus (thanks for stepping up).
>
> Last bit to debug before I can start testing an update of OC and NC is
> why my automated setup explodes with:
>
> PHP Fatal error:  Declaration of
> OC\\Files\\Storage\\Local::copyFromStorage(OCP\\Files\\Storage
> $sourceStorage, $sourceInternalPath, $targetInternalPath) must be
> compatible with
> OC\\Files\\Storage\\Common::copyFromStorage(OCP\\Files\\Storage
> $sourceStorage, $sourceInternalPath, $targetInternalPath,
> $preserveMtime = false) in
> /usr/share/owncloud/lib/private/Files/Storage/Local.php on line 42",
>
> The roles I use for testing are here: https://github.com/hogarthj/test_vms
>
> I'll be pushing updates as I get fixes there
>
> I'll be adding repos here to start tracking the builds:
> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jhogarth/
>
> Again, recognise what you'll be stepping up to, but if you are willing
> help is very welcome.
>
>
I do understand that mantain a package like OC and NC it is a lot of work,
I know it is just a litle help in the path to get the update working  but I
did some review of missing depencies because was the only visible step to
help to get the updated version of NC at that moment, but I am curios about
somethings:

1. There is both OC and NC in repos, two packages, the double of works, It
is irrational to keep just with one stream of the software? A well
documented setp can help users to move from OC to NC.

2. There is some work done to get NC 13 on Fedora, I apreciate that you
want to provide a clean path to current users to update, but it is
irratational to thing in ship the last version of NC to users and have a
very good docs about it?

I see that you have problems with testing the update, is that ansible
playbook available in some public repo? I can help to test, a NC/OC test
day with a wiki with the test coverage can be a great way to get help in
this and get feedback/help for users and I can help to test.
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