On 20 Jan 2018, at 8:24 PM, Alec Leamas <leamas.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>      I'm sorry, but wyland is a disaster for me.  I do work on lots
>> of different software platforms, and things are just not working well. 
>> They kind-of-work, which is the really worst condition one can have. 
> 
> For me, this looks more like a support issue and as such doesn't not
> belong to this development list. I suggest that you:

I disagree, this looks like an overarching observation of interest to the 
development community. Anyone else seen this as a pattern?

Regards,
Graham
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