On 01/12/2018 07:40 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fr, 12.01.18 07:20, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote:
> 
>> Instead of doing the blow by blow these threads
>> always turn into I'm just going jump to the point.
>>
>> systemd wants to use uid 65534 and it can't because
>> NFS is using it. So instead of changing systemd needs
>> they want to change NFS potentially break all NFS 
>> environments.
> 
> This is really not helpful. Grow up.
sigh... 

> 
> User namespacing is a Linux kernel feature. It's most well known
> consumers are probably Docker, and maybe flatpak/bubblewrap and LXC.
Well know for how long?

> 
> Neither Docker, nor flatpak/bubblewrap, nor LXC are systemd projects.
> 
> It's not systemd that came up with reusing 65534 for user
> namespacing. It's kernel people:
> 
>         $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/overflowuid 
>         65534
How was that number chosen and why can't be changed?
 
> 
> You know, if you want my personal opinion: 
I don't...

> 
>> Is or isn't this what we are talking about without
>> all the bloviation to justify the change.
> 
> It really is not. You *really* should read up on what the Linux kernel
> has been doing with user namespaces and how it started using the 65534
> UID for that.
> 
> That UID long ceased to be Steve Dickson's private property, and it's
> not systemd who took it away from you. It's evil evil kernel
> hackers. Please complain to them.
more sigh... This attitude is so old and unnecessary... sigh again... 

steved.
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