On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote:

> On 11/08/2017 07:13 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:03:30AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> >> <zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
> >>> We have such special protections for the kernel (signing), firefox
> (trademarks),
> >>> and for bootloaders (signing again), and some packages which don't
> consider
> >>> the fedora repo the canonical location for sources.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hold the phone! When did we allow packages to not consider the Fedora
> >> Dist-Git the canonical location for sources?
> >
> > For fedora-release the idea is that "upsteam" has a copy of the spec
> > file, and the changes are supposed to be copied both ways. But I think
> > there's no disagreement with retiring "upstream", so this issue should
> > be moot soon (independently of the other stuff being discussed).
>
> Well, this thread has had posts from 1 of the 4 maintainers.
> I don't think it would be appropriate to change the package workflow
> without input from the others.
>
> IMHO, if the problem here is that preset requests aren't being processed
> quickly enough, I'd be happy to add at least you (and any others that
> showed over time they understand how presets work and can review PRs) to
> review, create and merge PRs and build and push updates.
>
> I don't know that anything else dramatic needs to happen here...
>
>
Well, the merging to the upstream repo is only the start of the process.
There's also a really awkward creation of a new tarball that has to be
imported over in dist-git, then the spec file updated, etc.

What I think Zbigniew is asking for is the ability to more quickly get
*builds* including preset updates. Right now, even when the merges to the
upstream repo happen quickly, it's often measured in weeks how long it
takes to actually get a build of the Fedora RPM.
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