On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Jakub Jelen <jje...@redhat.com> wrote:

>
> So can we discuss it now once more without the affiliation to systemd?
> The fact is that we still do not have any other replacement except
> firewalls. But do we need one?
>

IIRC, in the past discussion there was quite a lot of people arguing
that we actually need one. I personally don't think we as a
distribution need a drop-in replacement. However, what we possibly
need, is a migration path for already deployed systems using
tcp_wrappers. Just dropping tcp_wrappers and potentially leaving
deployed services completely open would very irresponsible.

Also we should consider an impact this change will have on our
downstreams focusing on enterprise use-cases (CentOS, RHEL). I recon
that "splash damage" potentially caused by this change will be bigger
there than in Fedora itself.

Michal
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