From: Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org>
 To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> 
 Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 10:57 AM
 Subject: Re: R 3.4 update
   
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 11:38:00AM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> First, I appreciate the work that goes into maintaining the R ecosystem. But 
> there is now a problem that I don't think people would allow in other 
> languages. Namely, the recently pushed R-3.4 update breaks the whole world. 
> Something this disruptive usually has to wait for a new Fedora release to get 
> pushed out. I really think the same thing has to apply for R.

FWIW, here is another example where this caused problems:
https://stackoverflow.com/q/44834208/479426

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Respectfully, the above package is not from R, but R-forge. If contributors who 
are not part of the R ecosystem do not want to update their packages, then not 
much more can be done and the issue is not resolved even if you wait for the 
move to a later version of Fedora. 

I have not had a single package break by the move to R 3.4 (and I have a few 
100s of them installed). Indeed, all are updated.
In any case, with Fedora supposed to be a leading-edge system, I feel that we 
should keep updates happening promptly. Of course, one could also have a R-prev 
or something like that in case someone wanted to keep the older version. I 
prefer having the latest versions in R. 

On the other hand, conveniently, R releases just a few weeks before a Fedora 
release. This term it is much longer because Fedora 26 slipped schedules pretty 
badly.
Thanks!
   
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