On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 at 5:20 am, Brian (bex) Exelbierd <b...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote: > > > >> On 31.1.2017 09:13, Amit Saha wrote: > >> Hello Jan, > >> > >> The Fedora Scientific spin already includes most of the Python 3 > >> packages you are looking at. Is it worth looking at that instead of a > >> new spin? I am happy to change it to use GNOME instead of KDE. > > > > Hi. It's not about GNOME/KDE, it's about main purpose of such lab and > also marketing. Compare: > > > > > Use Fedora for teaching Python, it has a Python Clasroom Lab available > just for that! > > > > With: > > > > > Use Fedora for teaching Python, it has a Scientific Spin that happens > to have all the Python 3 tools needed! > > Phrased this way I agree with you. However, I think your wording is pretty > harsh. I'm on a plane right now so I don't have the Scientific Spin > marketing message in hand, but I think you could say: > > Teaching or learning python, the Fedora Scientific Spin is a great way to > easily have all the tools you need. It also supports additional educational > options with the included science components. > > Before pushing on this I'd like to see the Scientific Spin's build size. As the maintainer of this spin, I would be to discuss any changes to be suitable for meeting the needs of both target audiences. > > Regards, > > bex > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> Have you though > >> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 at 6:31 pm, Jan Kurik <jku...@redhat.com > >> <mailto:jku...@redhat.com>> wrote: > >> > >> = System Wide Change: Python Classroom Lab = > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PythonClassroomLab > >> > >> Change owner(s): > >> * Miro Hrončok <mhroncok AT redhat DOT com> > >> * SIGs/Python <python-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> <mailto:python-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org>> > >> > >> > >> A new Python Classroom Lab will be created in 3 variants: Workstation > >> based, Docker based and Vagrant based. It's an important step for our > >> Fedora Loves Python initiative. The main audience are Python teachers > >> and workshop instructors. > >> > >> > >> == Detailed Description == > >> A new comps packages group with Python development tools will be > >> created and a new Lab (or Spin) for teaching Python or Python related > >> topics will be available from labs.fedoraproject.org > >> <http://labs.fedoraproject.org> as well as from > >> the Docker Hub and Vagrant Atlas. > >> > >> A work in progress for the lab is available on GitHub. > >> > >> The Lab will contain: > >> * Python 3.6 including the python3-devel package > >> * Python 2.7 including the python2-devel package > >> * PyPy 3 > >> * tox > >> * virtualenv > >> * IPython console for both Python 2 and 3 > >> * Jupyter Notebook with Python 2 and 3 kernels (if this gets into > >> Fedora in time) > >> * offline documentation for Python 2 and 3 > >> * basic toolchain for building C and C++ extensions and valgrind > >> * git > >> * nano, vim, ssh client, curl, wget > >> * devel packages for commonly used dependencies of packages on the > >> Python Package Index > >> * * libxml2-devel > >> * * libyaml-devel > >> ... > >> > >> The Workstation based lab will also contain: > >> * Basic GNOME > >> * Terminal emulator > >> * Text editor > >> * PDF reader > >> * Web browser > >> * Image viewer > >> * ...and possibly other utilities > >> > >> But it will not include multimedia and virtualization support, office > >> suite, e-mail client. > >> > >> > >> == Scope == > >> Proposal owners: > >> * create the comps group > >> * create kickstarts for live and vagrant variants > >> * create a layer for docker > >> > >> Other developers: > >> * Design team: Create an image for labs.fedoraproject.org > >> <http://labs.fedoraproject.org> > >> * Websites team: Add the new Lab to labs.fedoraproject.org > >> <http://labs.fedoraproject.org> > >> > >> Release engineering: > >> List of deliverables: > >> * > >> > Labs/i386/iso/Fedora-Python-Classroom-Live-i386-_RELEASE_MILESTONE_.iso > >> * > >> > Labs/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Python-Classroom-Live-x86_64-_RELEASE_MILESTONE_.iso > >> * > >> > Labs/armhfp/images/Fedora-Python-Classroom-armhfp-_RELEASE_MILESTONE_-sda.raw.xz > >> * > >> > Labs/i386/images/Fedora-Python-Classroom-Vagrant-_RELEASE_MILESTONE_.i386.vagrant-libvirt.box > >> * > >> > Labs/i386/images/Fedora-Python-Classroom-Vagrant-_RELEASE_MILESTONE_.i386.vagrant-virtualbox.box > >> * > >> > Labs/x86_64/images/Fedora-Python-Classroom-Vagrant-_RELEASE_MILESTONE_.x86_64.vagrant-libvirt.box > >> * > >> > Labs/x86_64/images/Fedora-Python-Classroom-Vagrant-_RELEASE_MILESTONE_.x86_64.vagrant-virtualbox.box > >> * docker images via Fedora Docker Layered image build service > >> > >> Policies and guidelines: nothing > >> > >> Trademark approval: waiting > >> -- > >> Jan Kuřík > >> Platform & Fedora Program Manager > >> Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkynova 99/71, 612 45 Brno, Czech Republic > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> <mailto:devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> <mailto:devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org> > >> > >> -- > >> http://echorand.me > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> > > > > -- > > Miro Hrončok > > -- > > Phone: +420777974800 > > IRC: mhroncok > > _______________________________________________ > > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- http://echorand.me
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