On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:34:20AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > One thing I forgot to mention in my original reply to jwb (it was > getting long) is that there's a conundrum that applies quite > specifically to Mac support, and it's this: there are quite a lot of > people who want to run Fedora on Macs (seemingly, at least) but very > few in a position to test installs for new releases.
Hi, I think this is a big problem. If we have a "class" of users that have special needs (aka: very specific hardware/software/bios/...) and they never tests things, I see this more as their problem than other people problem. > The reason is pretty simple: very few people have a disposable Mac. > About 90% of the time, the Mac people want to install Fedora on is > their personal laptop. So of course they're not willing to test > installing some random pre-Beta nightly snapshot and tell us if > everything explodes. We also can't i) easily or ii) legally (AFAIK) > install OS X into a VM on non-Apple hardware for testing. I don't see why people should not have a disposable Macs but is "normal" to have a disposable PC. Also, AFAIK, Mac users tend to substitute their machines more often than PC users (at least statistically speaking), so many of them should have a 2-3 years old machine laying around. > We could, I suppose, try to get a few Mac users to look into testing in > VMs on their Macs. But beyond that we need people with 'burner' Macs, > and there aren't very many of them. We (Fedora QA) have just one old > Mac Mini. I think VM testing on Mac would not produce any more insights than VM testing on PC. Best, Fale -- Fabio Alessandro Locati Red Hat - Senior Consultant PGP Fingerprint: E815 3C49 2A8D FD8B 1CBD BC85 FDB3 DF20 B2DC 9C1B
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