Am Tue, 04 Oct 2016 14:22:34 -0700
schrieb Adam Williamson <adamw...@fedoraproject.org>:

> On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 22:15 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
> > On 04/10/16 22:04, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >   
> > > We've pretty much pinned it down, now. The recipe is: hybrid
> > > graphics + systemd-udev update == X crash. That is, if there's a
> > > systemd-udev update in the dnf transaction, and the system has
> > > hybrid graphics, and X is running while the update runs, X will
> > > crash. If you're running the update in a VT, X will crash but the
> > > update will complete OK. If you run the update inside X, the
> > > update process will die when X crashes and your system will be
> > > left messed up.  
> > 
> > 
> > My machine at work where this happens isn't hybrid. It has three 
> > monitors spread over two Nvidia cards though, driven by nouveau
> > rather than the proprietary drivers.  
> 
> OK, so probably strictly speaking this is triggered by having multiple
> adapters. 'Hybrid graphics' is by far the most common case of that
> these days, though. Thanks for the note, I'll revise my blog post
> (that I'm writing ATM).
I did not see such crashes on my hybrid laptop with F24, X and
gnome-shell.
I mostly use the intel gpu, but some games run on the
nvidia-gpu with nouveau-driver.
I tried the "systemctl restart systemd-udev-trigger.service"-approach
from a "normal" terminal and from a terminal under nouveau and there
was not even a flashing of the monitor visible. I do not have a
secondary (or third ...) monitor connected, just the default laptop
screen.

Jens


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