On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:32 AM, Miroslav Suchý <msu...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > I had the talk [1] about Fedora Sponsorship process at Flock. And we had
> > very interesting follow-up discussion.
> >
> > We come up with several improvements, which should be easy to implement
> and
> > may improve the process a lot. I am posting it here so more people can
> see
> > that and join the discussion.
> >
>
> Overall, I think the biggest problem with our Fedora contributor
> on-boarding process is that it's not so easy to discover people to
> help people get started. One thing I think Mageia (the other
> distribution I'm primarily involved in) does better is the discovery
> bit. As part of the on-boarding process[1], new contributors are
> encouraged to jump into a dedicated IRC channel (#mageia-mentoring)
> where they can meet people to help them through the process. Something
> like this might make it easier for people to find sponsors and find a
> mentor to teach them about how to make packages and be a Fedora packager.
> Perhaps having a mailing list and an IRC channel for this in Fedora
> might help make this process smoother.
>
> [1]: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager
>
>
Yeah, one thing that I remember when I was trying to become a packager is
that the instructions for how to get sponsored on the wiki contained (and
still contain) the phrase "When submitting a new package, usually a sponsor
finds you", which I think is a bit... overly optimistic in many situations.
Also at the time I was intimidated by the prospect of getting involved with
discussions on this list and IRC, which didn't help.

I looked at the Mageia how-to-become-a-packager process briefly a while ago
(my laptop dual-boots Fedora and Mageia, although I am primarily a Fedora
person), and I did notice how it seemed more hands on than ours. A
dedicated place for new contributors to go and meet potential sponsors or
other mentors, be that IRC or a mailing list, would probably be a good idea.

Ben Rosser
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