Have you looked to see what OS code does to access CSR registers?

Mike

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Subject: Re: Re: [edk2-devel] About EDK2 supports Self Modifying Code


Hi Mike and Andrew,

The CSR instructions integer value width is 14 bits, use for to access the CSR 
registers (Control And Status Registers).

Just like Andrew saying, the CSR registers include status registers, exception 
registers, TLB registers, performance conters etc.

Now, there are a few numbers CSR ineger value request by FW, but I don't known 
wether it will be use more numbers in future.

There are three choices:

Choices 1,

As Andrew saying, create some fixed variable and use marco `FixedGetPcd32` to 
get the right value befor calling the CSR instructions, but our might be create 
a lot of fixed variable, because it is 14bits width.



Choices 2,

As Mike saying, defined a limited APIs set, and if needs to more values, just 
adding them in future.



Choices 3,

Defined some inline assembly macro and handled it in the preprocessing stage, 
just like defined the CSR inline assembly macro in 
MdePkg/Include/Registers/LoongArch64/Csr.h, and include it when request to 
access the CSR registers.



Hope you can give your suggestion again and I will wait for your relpy.



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On Aug 17, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Michael D Kinney 
<michael.d.kin...@intel.com<mailto:michael.d.kin...@intel.com>> wrote:

How many different integer values are needed by FW for use of the csrrd 
instruction?


MIke,

I’m no expert on this and I just tried to site read a specification for the 1st 
time….
It looks to me the like the arch spec does not say something like mm0 - mm7 it 
seems to imply mm0 - mmN (N is implementation defined). Some of these resources 
seemed to be debug registers and performance counters, so things that make a 
lot of sense to have a variable number defined by the implementation?

Thanks,

Andrew Fish


There are examples of access functions on x86 for things like mm0, mm1, mm2, …, 
mm7 and cs, ds, es, ss, fs, gs.  These are implemented as different BaseLib 
APIs because they would also require SMC to do in a single API.

If there is a small number of csrrd index values that need to be accessed, and 
they have standard names, then perhaps you could define a set of APIs to access 
those registers.

Mike

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Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] About EDK2 supports Self Modifying Code


Hi Pedro,

Sorry for the late reply, I was a bit busy yesterday.

I think the better way is to use inline asm, because this issue must has to be 
dealt with in preprocessing stage, because in other stages, it has no chance to 
get immediate value except using SMC. But then we should ask to the MdePkg 
maintainer if it is OK.

Thanks,
Chao
在 2023/8/15 23:35, Pedro Falcato 写道:

On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 9:20 AM Chao Li 
<lic...@loongson.cn><mailto:lic...@loongson.cn> wrote:



Hi Andrew,



Yes, you are right, I also think that SMC is a bit flawed in terms of security, 
but can we use some security mechanism to protect the SMC, like encryption and 
decryption? Sorry, I'm not consider mature enough about SMC security.



There isn't any. Actual use cases in something like a kernel are

heavily vetted and read-protected as soon as possible.





I can tell you real problem, there are some CSR instructions in LoongArch64 
that can only accept immediate value, for example: `csrrd $a0, 0x1`, the 0x1 is 
the selection of CSR register number, it can't use the registers to select. 
This operation should be in the MdePkg base library.



I know that .c or .h files in MdePkg shouldn't depend on a single compiler 
feature, so I can't use the GNU AT&T style inline ASM function(AT&T style 
inline supports input parameters being immedite value, use "i" option). In this 
case, I think using SMC can handle this, that is use register transfer the CSR 
registers selection, and dynamically modify CSR instructions during execution 
phase with reference to transfer register value, this way is depend on the 
.text section or target memory is executable and writable.



FYI, poking instructions willy-nilly is unsafe and unreliable (except

on x86 due to kludges, but then it's slow).





The problem of immediate values can only be handled by preprocessing stage or 
using SMC, otherwise I can only write a lot of similar functions and use 
`switch case` to call them. This method will cause the program size to expand a 
lot.



So, I think I have following choice:



Choice 1:



Use AT&T style inline function, and create a file named: CsrOperationGcc.c, and 
other future compiler feature-dependent files will be named: 
CsrOperationClang.c, CsrOperationXlang.c and so on.



If you're going to use inline assembly, just expose them directly? I

don't see the problem there, I don't expect loongarch to be picked up

by visual studio any time soon.







Choice 2:



Use SMC.





Choice 3:



Write a lot of similar CSR functions.



You /could/ use a GAS macro.



.macro csr_write csr

.global CsrWrite\csr

CsrWrite\csr:

    csrw a0, \csr

    ret



(this is riscv pseudo-asm but I know your arch is similar enough)







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