Hi Marvin,

It would be beneficial in the sense that it could reduce the amount of work manually needed elsewhere.

PeiCore can migrate pointers in global databases it knows about such as the PPI list that point to global data areas it has knowledge of such as Temporary RAM. Prior to this change that included the Temporary RAM heap (e.g. memory allocations and data HOBs) and the Temporary RAM stack. PcdMigrateTemporaryRamFirmwareVolumes adds another layer of migration support for firmware volumes.

It roughly takes the previous pattern of registering individual PEIMs for shadow and performing a PPI reinstall and automates it where possible within PeiCore. With all of the modules in FVs installed in pre-memory relocated and fixed up, the core can use its knowledge of the FV list to expand its ability to update global databases with the new pointer location for pointers into those images. So this can help with something like the common usage of a PPI interface structure that is a global variable that contains function pointers to functions linked in the module.

However, there is still a case PeiCore doesn't know how to handle and that is pointers in a structure that is allocated on the heap. It would be aware of the PPI structure itself that is on the heap but it would be unaware of the custom structure type there that contains the pointers.

What I previously meant by the "universal" comment is that a separate PEIM named SecMigrationPei could give a false impression that SEC migration is entirely covered by the PEIM and the case above might not be considered.

In UefiCpuPkg/SecCore/SecMain.c, the PPIs installed in the mPeiSecPlatformInformationPpi descriptor array look like those that would benefit from the functionality brought in by PcdMigrateTemporaryRamFirmwareVolumes. In addition to those in SecBist.c. From that standpoint, the primary benefit I see is it would align support with what is provided with PEIMs.

It is unfortunate you don't have a physical platform. Perhaps something like the UP Xtreme in edk2-platforms is worth considering - https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/tree/master/Platform/Intel/WhiskeylakeOpenBoardPkg/UpXtreme.

Thanks,
Michael

On 8/17/2021 2:41 AM, Marvin Häuser wrote:
On 16/08/2021 18:18, Michael Kubacki wrote:
Hi Marvin,

Your understanding of SecMigrationPei is correct. It is not ideal as it's an unfamiliar pattern that could give the false impression that it is a universal SEC migration solution, which it is not. But if platforms understand that any additional data published in SecCore must be explicitly migrated (potentially via library extension to SecMigrationPei), it can be used to serve the SEC post-memory migration role.

I assumed it was related to the reset vector due to the 16-bit alignment. I think it would be great to have SecCore aligned properly if possible.

I could probably write a patch, but OVMF does not use this SecCore (and still something is misaligned :) ), and I don't have any other platform. Maybe I can ask Bret to test it as part of some PE loader validation in the future. :)

Would the old solution, which is being removed, be universal? Would it be beneficial? I know that the ARM world does not use this SecCore either, but I generally don't have a good idea about how their stuff works.

Thanks!

Best regards,
Marvin


Thanks,
Michael

On 8/14/2021 8:29 AM, Marvin Häuser wrote:
Hey Michael,

Thank you for your response! It was actually quicker than I imagined. :)

I think I understand, but please let me try to get this absolutely right. Can I think of "SecMigrationPei" as a sort of "SecCorePostMem", which either is loaded into permanent RAM directly or is shadowed because it is a PEIM unlike SecCore - and it republishes all public data, most especially PPIs, such that the entire PEI stage no longer has any references to the original SecCore at all, and the SecCore module basically just sits there in the ROM, and its exposed data is either discarded or orphaned? Is that about right?

I think I hit the alignment issue of SecCore too, but only for X64 builds (likely just because the size happens to be lucky for IA32) of OVMF. Pretty much sure it's just ResetVector positioning. What would be the issue with moving the ResetVector into a separate component, with its fixed position in FD (this is actually how UefiCpuPkg/VTF0 works), and having SecCore aligned correctly? Not specifically to restore MigrateSecModulesInFv(), but as future-proofing to ensure expected outputs. In fact, I noticed because my new PE loader code was upset about the unaligned XIP load address.

Also thanks for your patch!

Best regards,
Marvin

On 13/08/2021 18:51, Michael Kubacki wrote:
Hi Marvin,

I apologize for the delayed response, I missed this message earlier. The function was called from EvacuateTempRam() in the initial set of patches: [PATCH 1/6] MdeModulePkg/PeiCore: Enable T-RAM evacuation in PeiCore (CVE-2019-11098) (groups.io) <https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/61823>

I was not involved in the patch series on the mailing list (job role change at the time) but as a comment in that patch notes, there was an inconsistency observed in PE32 section alignment in SEC modules. I don't see where this was resolved other than the calls being removed later in the series. SecCore migration would not occur implicitly in the PeiCore flow but there is functionality for SEC data migration in UefiCpuPkg/SecMigrationPei.

Based on what I see now, I'd be happy to send a patch to remove MigrateSecModulesInFv().

Thanks,
Michael

On 8/7/2021 2:54 PM, Marvin Häuser wrote:
Good day everyone,
Good day Michael,

The commit that introduced T-RAM evacuation [1] also introduced the function "MigrateSecModulesInFv()". It also is explicitly mentioned as part of the control flow in the commit message. As far as I can see, since then till today this function has never been called anywhere. Was this some draft function that accidentally made it into the patch, or did the caller get lost somewhere? The description makes sense to me and I'm not experienced enough with the PeiCore control flow to tell whether the PEIM migration somehow covers SecCore implicitly. Also I noticed it only supports SecCore in a PE/COFF section, not a TE section. Is there a rationale for that?

Thank you for your time!

Best regards,
Marvin


[1] https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/commit/9bedaec05b7b8ba9aee248361bb61a85a26726cb








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