> On Jul 30, 2021, at 3:20 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 at 23:15, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2021, at 3:11 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> And assuming that it does, how do I send one of the new forms that contain 
>>>> the family first check box?
>>> 
>>> No idea what you mean by that.
>> 
>> The test data is from July 14 to July 17 2020 and does not include any 
>> "current" documents sent to secretary.
>>> 
>>> ==
>>> 
>>> Also, I thought we had abandoned the idea of requiring the
>>> family-first checkbox.
>> 
>> Nope. Just recently we received a document from a person who filled the form 
>> with their family name first and the document was filed with the assumption 
>> that the family name was last.
>> 
>> The Family First checkbox will prevent such mistakes in future.
> 
> Why is that a mistake?

Srsly? You don't think that the secretary should care to register "Craig 
Russell" instead of "Russell Craig"? He is a completely different person.

> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> AFAICT there is no need to populate the sn with anything meaningful
>>> (LDAP won't allow it to be empty)
>>> LDAP does not need givenName.
>>> 
>>> So I can think of no use-case for continuing to write/test/maintain
>>> code to set up sn/givenName from the Public name.
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> c...@apache.org
>> 

Craig L Russell
c...@apache.org

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