On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: > Perhaps during ATO we can hack on the ICLA process. There was an attempt a > couple of years ago but it stalled. > > 1. It is time consuming for committers to print, sign, scan, and email the > form. Not every committer has legible handwriting and it can be a challenge > to read the forms. Digital forms are much better to handle. > > 2. PMCs don't always follow the guidelines at > http://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html with the effect that when the > prospective committer files the ICLA, one or more of the following are > missing or wrong: > > committer id > project > [VOTE][RESULT] > > If there is a failure here, it is time consuming to sort who does what, how, > and when. New committers get a bad impression of Apache when there is a delay > in processing their new account. > > 3. Last name first name are still issues. What is Kim Jung Un's first name? > > 4. Email addresses on the form that differ from the sender's address are a > challenge. They need to be entered manually. > > I envision a process whereby the PMC invites a candidate to fill an online > form, which generates a digital document, signed by gpg, and which sends mail > to verify the email address. When the email address is verified, secretary > gets mail to review the filed document which is then processed as today but > with nothing to do but verify the document and file it. Secretary hates > typing. > > I remain leery of processes that allow users to "agree to the terms and > conditions of a document that you might choose to read" and then grant commit > privileges. Provenance is still a key legal issue for me.
If it is at all possible, I would prefer to start where we left off last time: https://whimsy.apache.org/test/icla/invite >From previous discussions, there still was substantial interest in supporting unsolicited ICLAs; such ICLAs can still be processed by scanning and sending. Perhaps the template ICLA can be updated to remove the preferred user id field? > Craig L Russell > Secretary, Apache Software Foundation > c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo - Sam Ruby