On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps during ATO we can hack on the ICLA process. There was an attempt a 
> couple of years ago but it stalled.
>
> 1. It is time consuming for committers to print, sign, scan, and email the 
> form. Not every committer has legible handwriting and it can be a challenge 
> to read the forms. Digital forms are much better to handle.
>
> 2. PMCs don't always follow the guidelines at 
> http://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html with the effect that when the 
> prospective committer files the ICLA, one or more of the following are 
> missing or wrong:
>
> committer id
> project
> [VOTE][RESULT]
>
> If there is a failure here, it is time consuming to sort who does what, how, 
> and when. New committers get a bad impression of Apache when there is a delay 
> in processing their new account.
>
> 3. Last name first name are still issues. What is Kim Jung Un's first name?
>
> 4. Email addresses on the form that differ from the sender's address are a 
> challenge. They need to be entered manually.
>
> I envision a process whereby the PMC invites a candidate to fill an online 
> form, which generates a digital document, signed by gpg, and which sends mail 
> to verify the email address. When the email address is verified, secretary 
> gets mail to review the filed document which is then processed as today but 
> with nothing to do but verify the document and file it. Secretary hates 
> typing.
>
> I remain leery of processes that allow users to "agree to the terms and 
> conditions of a document that you might choose to read" and then grant commit 
> privileges. Provenance is still a key legal issue for me.

If it is at all possible, I would prefer to start where we left off last time:

https://whimsy.apache.org/test/icla/invite

>From previous discussions, there still was substantial interest in
supporting unsolicited ICLAs; such ICLAs can still be processed by
scanning and sending.  Perhaps the template ICLA can be updated to
remove the preferred user id field?

> Craig L Russell
> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo

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