Feel free to add a link on the main whimsy page, re-order columns,
capitalize headings, etc.

I also forgot to mention that it is my intent to make the roster tool
fully read/write over time... people with the appropriate permissions
should be able to make updates from these pages.  The ability to edit
the SpamAssassin score, and to add/remove committers are just an
examples of what possibilities are there.

So there may be other read-only views out there.  The phone book is an
example.  I'm personally skeptical of it's functionality to do
cross-checks.  Not that it duplicates functionality that has been
present for a long time in the roster tool (that's fine with me, after
all, it has a different target audience).  But that it tells the wrong
audience (the general public) this information, and does not provide
the means to correct it.

- Sam Ruby

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:13 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 February 2016 at 21:56, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:40 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 29 February 2016 at 21:37, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Main page lists a link for:
>>>>
>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age
>>>>
>>>> This lists 50 PPMCs
>>>>
>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster lists
>>
>> How did you get to this page?
>
> I typed it in, because it's not linked from the main page.
> Perhaps it should be added above the list of its sub-pages?
>
>> It should have a trailing slash.  Do we
>> need to add the following to
>> infrastructure-puppet/data/nodes/whimsy-vm2.apache.org.yaml
>>
>>         RedirectMatch ^/roster$ /roster/
>
> Probably not.
>
>>>> 51    Podlings    Active podlings at the ASF =>
>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/podlings => 404
>>>>
>>>> Not sure where the link is supposed to go
>>>
>>> Found it at
>>>
>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/podlings
>>>
>>> However this repeats the information in, and indeed links to,
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/#current
>>
>> Apparently not.  One has 50 and one has 51.  :-)
>>
>>> Not sure why there is a need for this duplication.
>>> Why not just link to the incubator site?
>>
>> I do link to the incubator site when you click on an individual podling.
>>
>> The index pages has counts, and can sort in various ways by clicking
>> on the headings.
>
> Did not realise that; it's not immediately obvious.
> I think the Status column should be between the Name and Description
> (and IMO they would be more obvious if they were capitalised).
>
>> I'm not sure what cross-checks may be useful, but an
>> example where cross-checks find authorizations associated with retired
>> podlings can be found on the groups page.
>
> Current podlings may have a non-LDAP group (for SVN auth); this should
> disappear when the podling graduates (it's replaced by an LDAP
> committee group) or retires (it should be removed).
>
>>>> or why the pages disagree on
>>>> the number of podlings
>>
>> Nope.  I would have thought that the two pages were derived from the
>> same data source.
>
> They should both be derived from podlings.xml, but maybe they
> interpret it differently.
> Or maybe they are using different copies - there's the original SVN,
> then maybe a staging copy and the deployed copy.
> If a change has not been fully pushed there could be discrepancies.
>
>> - Sam Ruby

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