Some of the non-API code would be helpful to have available to plugins,
like URL parsing.  (That's not to say headers for such things ought to be
combined with API headers.)

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Alan Carroll <
solidwallofc...@oath.com.invalid> wrote:

> To paraphrase, I'm extremely negative on combining non-API related utility
> headers with TS API headers. They're really quite different and that's
> something users (such as me) writing plugins would care about.  I would
> greatly appreciate them being distinct. Separating API from utility
> mechanisms is quite a common pattern in open source as well. Beyond that, I
> still think I'd like to have clear indicator about whether I have to put
> extra link information in my makefile - linking to libtscpp doesn't happen
> automatically and knowing that I need to do it is not a trivial point when
> building a plugin.
>
> I'll update the PR with the CPP API library rename after lunch.
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Bryan Call <bc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > It would be best to combine include/tscpp and include/tsutil into one
> > directory (include/tscpp).  External users writing plugins really don’t
> > care about the dependency distinction between them.
> >
> > This would mean that would would need to move the files from the lib/ts
> > directory over to the lib/cppapi directory. Also, the cppapi library
> should
> > be called libtscpp.so to be in sync with the include directory name.
> >
> > -Bryan
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 24, 2018, at 6:45 AM, Alan Carroll <solidwallofc...@oath.com.
> INVALID>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Based on feedback here, on IRC, and on the PR, the changes have been
> > > updated.
> > >
> > > Exported headers have been moved to the top level 'include' directory.
> > >
> > > include/ts -> C API headers.
> > > include/tscpp -> C++ API headers.
> > > include/tsutil -> C++ utility headers.
> > >
> > > The same directories are used for the install. This reduces differences
> > > between in core plugins and external plugins - both will now use the
> same
> > > include paths for the same headers.
> > >
> > > Source changes -
> > >
> > > lib/ts -> lib/tsutil : this removes the problem where 'ts' as part of
> the
> > > include path meant different things externally vs. internally. Now 'ts'
> > is
> > > always the C API headers and 'tsutil' are the utility headers. This
> also
> > > means 'libtsutil.so' is built in 'lib/tsutil' which is nice. As part of
> > > this 'apidefs.h.in' and 'apidefs.h' were moved to 'include/ts' because
> > > those are C API headers. The include path for this file remains
> > > 'ts/apidefs.h'.
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Jason Kenny <jke...@oath.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I gave a talk on this my first summate. Honestly, most people I talk
> to
> > are
> > >> +1 on this.
> > >>
> > >> The only complaint about fixing our layout and refactoring broken code
> > was
> > >> that it makes it hard to cherry pick back to older drops. People
> > complain
> > >> and hack the build more and more. I want to:
> > >>
> > >> 1) simplify the build
> > >> 2) make it easier for people to find the real source.
> > >> 3) make it easier to change or add api without coming up with odd and
> > >> overly clever names or tricks to avoid having a clean layout
> > >>
> > >> I believe in the end cleaner code will only make it easier for people
> to
> > >> want to help out and join the ATS community. making complex as it
> scares
> > >> people away to other projects
> > >>
> > >> Jason
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Jason Kenny <jke...@oath.com.INVALID>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> 1) I don’t like the “src” top level directory, that implies that
> all
> > >>>> source is there (which is clearly not the case)
> > >>>> We cannot move everything at once. We have to do stuff in small
> steps.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I would really like to get all the source under an src/ dir to
> solve a
> > >>>> number of stupid build problems we have. We have to start someplace,
> > >> and
> > >>>> honestly this is a good first step.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hugely -1 on this ninja move.
> > >>>
> > >>> This should be discussed / suggested in a separate discussion / PR,
> and
> > >>> not snuck in like this into another PR. I.e. do not do this here, but
> > if
> > >> we
> > >>> decide to change this later, make that change there.
> > >>>
> > >>> I’d be curious to hear about your build problems too, in the last 10+
> > >>> years, no one has had any such issues because of the lack of a src/,
> > >> that I
> > >>> know of at least.
> > >>>
> > >>> Ciao,
> > >>>
> > >>> — leif
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>



-- 
Derek

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