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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bret Palsson <bre...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: TLS Session Ticket: Key Rotation
To: dev@trafficserver.apache.org


Brian:

Thanks for summarizing this thread!

That would work operationally. I think there still there needs to be a safe
way to force a rotation without having to restart traffic_server and
reloading all the configs via traffic_line -x.

-Bret



On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Brian Geffon <briangef...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'd like to close the loop on this discussion. In general I believe there
> is a consensus that perhaps ssl_multicert is not the place to deal with
> ticket rotation and that if you're willing to have global session tickets
> (meaning not tied to a specific domain) then the implementation that would
> accomplish this would be trivial compared to the current approach where
> rotation would happen with traffic_line -x on a per domain basis coming
> from ssl_multicert. Which I strongly agree with if this is something that
> most people believe would remain secure and is acceptable...? Additionally,
> in the long run if something more complicated was required we could
> implement it via early ssl hooks and a plugin.
>
> Does this accurately sum things up?
>
> Nikhil / Bret, do you guys think rotating a global ticket file via
> records.config works both from a security and operational standpoint?
>
> Thanks everyone for the great feedback!
> Brian
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Bret Palsson <bre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:08 AM, James Peach <jpe...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:16 AM, James Peach <jpe...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Susan Hinrichs <
> > > shinr...@network-geographics.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would argue that the specification of the session ticket key in
> the
> > > ssl_multicert.config file is inappropriate at least as the primary
> > > mechanism.  It seems that for the common case, you don't need to use
> > > different session keys for different domains.  You could specify one
> key
> > > file set in records.config.
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes, I think this is a promising approach.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I like that too. I don’t know how easily this can be done as an
> > > overridable configuration, without introducing a lot of additional
> > > complexity (remember, the HttpSM needs to generally be available for
> you
> > to
> > > use overridable configs).
> > >
> > > You can't override this at the HTTP layer since you already had to deal
> > > with session tickets when you terminated the TLS session.
> > >
> > > > If it can’t be overridable, would it make sense to have an API as
> well
> > > for this? Such that a plugin can set the session keys, which would then
> > let
> > > you manage the rotation in any way that you seem fit.
> > >
> > > It would be great to have more flexibility in TLS. As I may have
> implied
> > > before, I think ssl_multicert.config is stretching the limits of what
> it
> > > can reasonably express :)
> > >
> >
> > I very much agree with this!
> >
> >
> > > J
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bret Palsson | https://cobook.co/bretep
> >
>



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