On May 16, 2014, at 9:30 AM, James Peach <jpe...@apache.org> wrote: > On May 15, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I’d like to remove the existing traffic_shell command. This is one of two >> remaining TCL places, and as far as I know, this is of little use. Now, a >> significant portion, but not all, of traffic_shell has been reimplemented as >> a Perl script. I’m hoping this is an adequate tool to at least achieve much >> of what people might be using traffic_shell for. What’s missing is the >> “config” portion, where traffic_shell implements basically the equivalent of >> calling traffic_line -s -v. >> >> Unless there are objections to this, I’d like to proceed by >> >> 1. Eliminate existing traffic_shell >> 2. Replace it with traffic_shell[.pl], the perl script >> 3. Clean up the documentation. Much of it stays the same (the show: >> commands in the perl script are identical), but some would be defunct. > > I don't think that traffic_shell is widely used, and I question it's > usefulness in the first place. In general, I think the direction we should > move is in a small suite of command line tools to supplement traffic_line. I > think you are right that traffic_line is getting to be a kitchen sink :)
Yep. My preference would be to have at least two sinks; traffic_line as it has been for a long time is exclusively to talk to the mgmt port, whereas other tools (including traffic_shell) have been a hodge lodge. So, maybe a traffic_tool? I also feel that it’d be better with a Perl (or Python, or Go) than a C/C++ program for the kitchen sink of admin tools, since most such tools would be written by people with little or no C++ skills (and I wouldn’t expect them to). > > So I'm +1 on nuking TCL and willing to accept the demise of traffic_shell if > that's what it takes. I'm ambivalent about replacing it with a perl version, > since I don't think it is widely used. Ok. The reason I wrote the perl script is because there were rumblings last time we tried to remove traffic_shell. — Leif