On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Shu Kit Chan <chanshu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some updates for #1 after some more debugging.
>
> I was wrong on cache URL being locked. There is no lock or connection
> collapse yet. Those subsequent requests for the same resources are
> just TCP_MISS, causing extra request to origin server. It is still a
> problem, though, because I expect a stale response for these
> subsequent requests before the origin responds.

Hmm, that's interesting. I agree that is a problem and I will have to
look into this further to see how it can be solved. If you have some
ideas or a patch I would be very interested in them.

>
> Thanks
>
> Kit
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Shu Kit Chan <chanshu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am trying this plugin out
>> (https://github.com/apache/trafficserver/tree/master/plugins/experimental/rfc5861)
>> and I have a few concerns
>>
>> 1) Let's assume that my origin server becomes slow and takes 10
>> seconds to respond after a while. Initially the origin server response
>> is fast and cachable (e.g. "Cache-Control: max-age=30,
>> stale-while-revalidate=300, public") and a cached copy is in the ATS
>> cache. When the origin server becomes slow and the ATS cache copy
>> expires, I assume the plugin should be able to return stale response
>> from ATS and issue an async call to the origin server for the content.
>> It will continues to give out stale responses from all other requests
>> of this resource until the origin server comes back 10 seconds later
>> with the response and cached properly in ATS.
>>
>> However, I don't think the plugin is doing it this way. The async call
>> is made in a normal way and thus the cache URL is locked (according to
>> this diagram - 
>> http://trafficserver.apache.org/docs/trunk/sdk/http-hooks-and-transactions/index.en.html).
>> Subsequent requests to the same resource will get a cache miss and
>> will be blocked till the origin server comes back with a response 10
>> seconds later. So in reality, what happened is that once a resource is
>> expired, the first request for this resource will return with a stale
>> copy and all subsequent request for this resource will be blocked till
>> the origin server responds
>>
>> 2) Also, according to TS-998
>> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-998) , Wouldn't
>> TSHttpHdrPrint() be causing trouble for the rfc5861 plugin?
>> I can imagine that it will probably work when pristine_host_hdr is 0,
>> though. We might be able to construct the async request using
>> TSMimeHdrPrint() and construct the request line with previously saved
>> variables.
>>

This is not a problem because we use TSHttpHdrClone() in the
TS_HTTP_READ_REQUEST_HDR_HOOK before TS-998 bites us. This isn't ideal
because it makes a copy of every single request, but it is the only
work around I know of.

>> 3) "troot" is a variable used to remember what URL is being called
>> asynchronously right now. So a subsequent request to ATS will not
>> generate extra async call of the same URL. But URL is only part of
>> cache key. Some request headers can be part of the cache key based on
>> the "Vary" response header.
>>

Not sure I understand this case. We already did the cache lookup and
get back a STALE result so we want to do a fresh lookup to the origin
and don't have a 'Vary' response header to to account for. The intent of troot
isn't to lock the cache key, just the URL so we don't do multiple
requests. If I have missed some case here we can definitely make a
change to account for it.

>> Thanks.
>>
>> Kit

Thanks for the feedback. I'd like to get all the loose ends tied up and
see this plugin get some good usage.

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