On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:10:20 -0400 Ross Mohn <rpm...@waxandwane.org> wrote:
> On 4/23/21 10:12 PM, Jeremy wrote: > > On 04/20/21 10:23AM, Greg Reagle wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021, at 09:45, Jeremy wrote: > >> I gave up on using dvtm a while ago (now I use tmux which is good) because > >> it > >> would keep crashing. And I could not figure out how to debug the crashes > >> or get > >> specific information about the cause of the crashes. If I had known about > >> these > >> options then I would have compiled dvtm with them and maybe gave better bug > >> reports. (Though I know C, I am not an expert in C.) > > I know what you're talking about & it's a pain in the ass. I believe > > this is due to the ANSI parser implementation(vt.c) that DVTM uses. > > > > I wrote a library, libst(a fork of st), and modified st, dvtm to link > > against it: > > https://github.com/jeremybobbin/libst > > > > Try compiling & installing libst, then compile & run dvtm in libst/examples. > > > > As much as I love dvtm, I believe it's a captive user interface, and > > lacks the extensibility that a terminal multiplexer could/should provide. > > > > Attempting to address this, I wrote, what I believe to be, a suckless > > approach to terminal multiplexing - svtm: > > https://github.com/jeremybobbin/svtm > > > > svtm is a composition of primarily 4 programs: > > - abduco - {at,de}tach > > - svt - TTY state/dumping/scrolling > > - bmac - byte-for-byte macros > > - itty - lets you run TTY input through a filter(such as bmac) > > > > I'd like to add a "paner" program to that list, but for now, the above > > is all you need to express any terminal-oriented workflow in a UNIX > > environment. > > > > I'm curious as to what y'all think. > > > > Jeremy > > > I and my entire team have been actively and successfully using dvtm for > years. I haven't had it crash in a long while now, and I regularly keep > sessions alive for months. However, I am very interested in using > something as you describe above, with a library version of st that is > kept up-to-date. I didn't get your svtm to work out-of-the-box, but I > will continue to debug it myself. I got all the programs to compile > fine, but did go into each Makefile and, where necessary, added the '?' > character to this line "PREFIX ?= /usr/local". Why do you need `?=`. The only difference between `=` and `?=`? Apart from `=` beginning the only assignment operator defined by POSIX, is that `?=` has no effect if the variable is already defined wheras `=` does not have any effect if the variable is set in the command line. > > -Ross > >
