Hi "Greg Reagle" <greg.rea...@umbc.edu> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, at 06:57, Laslo Hunhold wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:11:09 +0200 > > Georg Lehner <jo...@at.anteris.net> wrote: > > > A question: why is the scrollback-patch not included in `st` already > > > > exactly my point. I see no reason why there can't at least be a > > scrollback, which defaults to 0 in config.h. > > Wouldn't this make all sides happy? > > Now I am thinking that it would be good idea to have a scrollback > program and/or library that is used by st, xterm, dvtm, tmux, splitvt, > mtm. For those programs that do not come with a scrollback feature, > this would add the scrollback feature with very little (scrollback > library) or no (scrollback program) extra code. For some of those > programs that already have the feature, stripping out their custom > code would reduce complexity. If all of these programs used the same > program/library, there would be a consistent user interface which > would be really nice. > > I think that some people consider a scrollback buffer in st to be > feature bloat, so they keep it out of the main line and force it into > an extra patch. The attitude is: If you want scrollback, use dvtm or > tmux, or the scrollback patch, or do things in a Plan 9 sort of way > (which I am not too familiar with).
Yes, the scrollback buffer can be implemented by a different tool like tmux for example. That's why this functionality is not implemented in st from what I understand. Separation of concerns and so on. I can see why it is inconvenient but personally I have never applied the scrollback patch to st and I have been using st for years. If the patch would be added to mainline, I would definitely use the scrollback buffer, though it would also increase the SLOC count for functionality that arguably should be handled elsewhere. Cheers, Silvan > When I first learned of st, this attitude really baffled me. How > could a scrollback feature in a terminal be considered extraneous? > Now that I've learned more about suckless and about how Plan 9 works > (though Plan 9 still confuses me, I haven't completely wrapped my head > around it), it doesn't seem so crazy. But still, I always use the > scrollback patch for st.
