On 31 August 2017 at 21:10, ilf <i...@zeromail.org> wrote: > hiro: >> >> this is not about just whether something has TLS support, this is about >> giving the user choices. > > > If you can't speak TLS, then use gopher instead of HTTP. I hear HTTPS sucks, > too.
Come on, isn't this a contradiction to your always redirect approach? gopher is almost dead and doesn't provide any advantage over HTTP in terms of MIM prevention. I agree with hiro to let the user decide if he sticks to http or https, but that we shouldn't mandate https. This whole discussion is really a waste of time. Now, HTTPS is there to satisfy some packagaer as an option to choose from. Kudos go to Hiltjo for this. Whoever wants to stick with http, shall stick to it. We don't want to break a running system. BR, Anselm