On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:42:51AM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> Dear suckless folks,
> 
> 
> On 08/31/17 11:36, ilf wrote:
> > Hiltjo Posthuma:
> > > I'm not a fan of automatic http to HTTPs redirects. It would break
> > > support for some text-based clients or some simple scripts as an
> > > example.
> > 
> > I'm a huge fan of these redirects. A simple 301 Moved Permanently has
> > been part of RFC 2616 sinde 1999 and anything not able to handle that is
> > broken: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.3.2
> > 
> > Can you tell which clients and scripts break and how?
> 
> I understood it the way, that there might be programs not being able to deal
> with TLS.
> 

Indeed thats what I meant.

> > > HSTS support makes sure http to https links are changed on the
> > > client-side.
> > 
> > Some privacy-settings clean all states on exit, including cookes and
> > HSTS. And people mostly type domains into an URL bar, not protocols.
> 
> Two more options would be DNSSEC/DANE for the Web service [1] and HTTPS
> Everywhere [2].
> 

I agree or just a simple HTTPs browser bookmark. I think thats better on many
levels, for example otherwise someone can also spoof a plain HTTP redirect.

-- 
Kind regards,
Hiltjo

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