On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 01:31:42PM +0000, sylvain.bertr...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 02:58:34PM +0200, Stéphane Aulery wrote: > > Go and Oberon are better than this crazy ecosystem. > > They solve the problem of compilation and object orientation. > > go is quite worse than rust. go has mandatory garbage collection, and its > bootstrap compiler is gcc (now c++ mandatory), no effort on a "working kernel" > as far as I know (at least they are trying with rust). rust has in-syntax > string management, why not in-syntax thread management while they are it. > Their > bootstrap SDK is a pile of insane junk (mozilla based, then expected). > > Well, I'm waiting to get a working basic kernel coded with go. I think they > did > try with ada. Good luck for the GPU drivers.
I know that. You reacted too fast. I did not talk about writing an OS with Go, only compiling and a more balanced language between structured programming and object with Oberon. Clive project work on that subject : http://lsub.org/ls/clive.html In passing, you say nothing about Oberon. The Oberon ecosystem (language + OS) has demonstrated that it is possible to write a minimalist system with or without GC, with modular programming. My idea is how to reconcile the implementation of programs and a kernel that is a multiplexer like plan9 with a language and a sound compilation environment like that of Oberon. > > > Scripting languages are not bad but should not be used for low-level bricks. > > It should be for a final software, a prototype, or non-redistributed > > administration scripts. As long as they are much higher-level languages > > they must also be used only in the highest layer of a system. > > For the reasons I gave, those "interpreted" languages should be avoided like > hell, they are sneaky and really bad, and avoiding the "war" between all > interpreted languages is already so much added value that it is worth it. The > only sane way is a set of simple SH scripts orchestrating a set of C coded > programs: YES, I will take a bit more time to code, YES, I will compile, but > OH > GOD! I'M WON'T FUCKING DEPEND ON THOSE... (insert pejorative anything here, it > will do). I agree, but C is too low for the entire stack software. The script languages will survive as long as there is no compiled language cleaner. -- Stéphane Aulery
