Hi Alex, On 23 July 2017 at 09:47, ochern <dexa...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm new here and I want to ask if somebody is interested in discussing > a development of lightweight build system based on simple Shell and > Make. It would be great to hear the opinions from the community and > may be there would rise a common welth and opportunity to develop > suckless build system :)
Imho an almost suckless build system already exists: mk[0]+9base. "Almost" derives from the fact, that 9base or p9p in conjunction with the popular rc shell is kind of an alien citizen in a regular Linux/BSD environment, and thus probably not the easiest choice for gaining straight adoption. Nevertheless, if you dig deeper into all the problems of GNU vs BSD vs Shitwaris etc. userlands, you will notice that it becomes a hard task to find a suitable subset in Makefiles + shell commands that will work almost painfree on most platforms. sbase+ubase doesn't ease the solution, as they don't nicely co-exist with GNU or BSD userlands. In such situations, relying on mk+9base is an excellent choice, as the limitations of mk, rc and its native userland are well understood -- and still mk+9base are a lot(!) smaller in code size than bash for instance. For stali development I considered switching to mk, but concluded it isn't worth the effort as stali can only be built in a Linux environment anyways. To conclude, mk and our just-Makefile based build systems aren't perfect, but they are extremely suckless in comparison to generated GNUmakefiles and GNU authell. Instead on focussing on yet another build system, I would rather suggest to focus on a better mail archiver or to work on a nice bugtracker, that fits well into the mlmmj world of things. [0] http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/mk/mk.pdf Best regards, Anselm
