On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 08:57:22PM +0700, Михаил Ивко wrote: > > Look at rust, they are trying: they are writting a kernel. But face the > > consequences: there are no syntax profiles... you get strings hardcoded in > > the > > syntax, why not threading while they're at it... lol. > > The only part of rust srings that's "hardcoded" is that str is > different from [u8], so that indexing operations can be implemented > differently (to respect unicode character boundaries). > Things such as allocating memory for concatenated strings are not hardcoded. > This begs the question of why str is a primitive type, not a simple > wrapper type. I don't know enough rust to answer that. > > > I wish you luck with > > their SDK: they have a rust compiler written in rust, but the main SDK > > (bootstrap), is just an insane bloat based on smelly c++ and... the infamous > > and magnificiently "comfy" mozilla build system. Where is the suckless > > compiler > > written in simple C with basic makefiles or idiotic but soooo ez to > > understand > > simple sh scripts? > > > > So, to build rust without rust compiler you have to deal with suck. To > build C without C compiler... Can you even do that in this day and > age?
Never really got intereted in this. Maybe there is a C compiler written in one of the ML dialects (the ML guys did re-write many apps, but forgot a performant kernel with enough drivers). Nowdays, you have clang which requires a good c++ compiler/runtime in order to compile C. gcc is now similar: you must have a c++98 compiler/runtime to compile gcc (that's why I did start slowly a kind of modular fork of gcc: currently in libiberty breaking down). gcc steering commity is now evil and/or strongly sick (gcc still uses that svn junk, it's kind of a proof that something is not "right" over there). Its kind of opacity and kind of under the hood activities do not help: since it's one of the corner stone of open source software like linux is, fishy, damn fishy. -- Sylvain
