>From the stuff you list that i do know about 3D rendering, cups, sane, policykit, consolekit, pulseaudio and systemd are not required for desktop environments. Where can I find the thoughtwork you claim existed at the start? That programs work programatically doesn't need extra notion I think.
On 10/30/15, Teodoro Santoni <asbras...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good evening > > 2015-10-30 14:57 GMT+01:00, Marc Collin <marc.coll...@gmail.com>: >> They don't see to know what they are trying to "fix" in the first place. >> How about reimplementations of Xorg that actually sucks less? >> Like https://github.com/idunham/tinyxserver for example (really far >> from being suckless, but looks like a start). >> >> > > This is not a matter of just Wayland. A desktop environment (and, > generally speaking, any user experience on a gui) often may require > different and multiple input and output than kbd, mouse, monitor; > starting programs and video object programmatically, turning on > devices programmatically, 2D and 3D rendering, > X server at some point tried to do all these shit, then some projects > modernized and took out pieces from X. So it's a matter of Wayland, > CUPS, SANE, libinput, udev, policykit, consolekit, pulseaudio, > systemd. > The thoughtwork imho was good at the start, then every imbecile and > standard committee came to the battlefield. They have never been good > at mantaining well-functioning a bunch of video cards on unix, they > will behave very poorly at mantaining in a well-functioning state a > million types of personal computers with unix. It's too big of a task > as it is, and they lack of the common sense required to do it well... > >
