When the choice you have is between 500k or 2 million lines of code, it hurts to call anything suckless. I think the web needs a serious reboot. It started out as a markup language for presentation-only, and then it was morphed through a convoluted series of additions into an application distribution plataform. The browser is the dumb terminal of our days. Today the web browser is the most awful piece of software I need to use. I dream with the day when the Internet will be built around a model simple and generic enough that a reasonable programmer will be able to code a complete "browser" in a month of work or so.
Am I alone? Is there any hope out there? Document distribution seems easy. Hyperlinking was an wonderful idea, but it's not complicated. But when it comes to application distribution. By application distribution I mean, when we want to develop and maintain software in a central location and enable several users with a generic client to use it. I know that we have ssh and mainframe terminal applications, but those are not something most people are willing to use. Answering your question about netsurf, I think the point is that it doesn't currently run javascript. I think that is good thing, but most site developers in the world doesn't. Also, netsurf developers also intend to implement javascript at some point. But today for a lot of sites you have to stick with one of the three main rendering engines. 2014-10-25 15:41 GMT-02:00 F Hssn <fhs...@gmail.com>: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Quentin Rameau <quinq...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, I tried to port surf for the webkit2 (WebKitGTK 2.6 / GTK3), here >> is the code: >> git://quinq.eu.org/surf2 >> There will be some bugs, feel free to try it, feedback welcomed. > > Noob question (joined the list a couple months ago), > > Since surf, uzbl, jumanji etc are minimal browsers in terms of UI's, > is the GTK version of webkit (as opposed to directly using Webkit) > used primarily for providing widget functionality to HTML? (so that > widgets can be embedded in a webpage). > > Following suckless's minimal philosophy, I'd be interested to find out > if someone has done analysis on how an even minimal browser could be > developed in terms of SLOC, since webkit (r172694) stands at ~2 > million lines, 75% of which is C++, while webkitgtk-1.10.2 is ~1 > million, 90% C++. I used cloc. I'm surprised webkitgtk is smaller than > latest webkit. > > Furthermore, since webkit is C++, I found (through wikipedia) a > project called netsurf, which is a browser written in C (~0.5 million > total, 50% is C). I wonder if anyone has considered that. > > Thanks and regards, > FH >
