On 16 September 2014 00:23, FRIGN <d...@frign.de> wrote: > > Some vocal individuals? I struggle to find anybody who isn't against C++. > C++ does provide some abstraction features, yes, but every time I read > C++ or even boost-code, my brain just shuts off and begs for C's > simplicity and clarity.
In my opinion, C++'s good features are also it's bad features; the metaprogramming abilities of C++ are one of the two reasons to use C++. The other being is if you need to get some code done and the only available library is in C++ (and you have no time to reimplement that library). If you can get your head round the metaprogramming, C++ provides some powerful syntactic sugar that is really useful for abstracting complex pieces of code (e.g. say a maths i.e. matrix heavy code). The downside is you can also use it to hide the complicated bits in tonnes of metaprogramming which is almost unintelligible too anyone but yourself and a few metaprogramming gurus. >> And for C++, well, I know there is some vocal individuals against it on the >> sl mailing list, but I think most members are sensible, we do not need to >> stay frozen with C89, C++ is bigger than C, more complex, but provides a lot >> of abstraction features that makes it easier to reason and organize your >> program. I suspect most of the hatred I see here is due to ignorance, low >> familiarity with idiomatic C++ and exposure to horrible code (horrible >> code being writable in any language). Maxime, I really like what you'e done with kakoune, although your code base doesn't seem to use C++'s features heavily, meaning that your could write equally clean code in C. Why does it have to be C89? C99 is nicer. For a text editor, C is perfectly adequate as the main operations are to do with text and you don't really need to worry about a lot of abstractions. -- Tai Chi Minh Ralph Eastwood tcmreastw...@gmail.com