On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Sylvain BERTRAND <sylw...@legeek.net> wrote: > You missed the points. > > I don't want "standard" distro integration to be a massive work. > Now it's near unreasonable to integrate a proper desktop distro > alone, and it's quite worse from a "SDK" point of view. It's good > for the business of distro integration: coze a small team, or a > sole coder cannot "compet" reasonnably. I'm being ironic, but I > don't think I'm far from the truth. > > High level script languages are *many*. And forcibly used in many > base components. Perl5 in autotools, apt/dpkg (have to re-check), > ruby for grub2, python for portage, javascript for desktops > (gnome) and I don't count all the "code generators" SDKs do have. > Last time I tried to get rid of the autotools from the glib (not > glibc), I ran into perl5 and python2 (and not 3!!) code > generators. For libsnd, I discovered a crazy code generator > written in GNU guile. Of course, each high level scripting > language has to manage its module dependencies and so on, and > it's of course of massive kludge... yes nearly *each* of them. > > People choosing to code using C with some libs, did choose it > perfectly knowing that they will sacrifice some comfort compared > to *insert your favorite high level scripting language* with > *insert the chosen framework specific to that high level > scripting language*... (the funniest is PHP with its tons of > different www frameworks which do not work together but aim at > the same thing). > > That works with crazy complex statically compiled languages like > c++/java (which is probably the worst)/etc. > > Then, yes, I dont want all those things as system dependencies, > coze I don't want to have to maintain integration on those very > expensive pieces of software. The hard part, they will have to > do it: to bundle in their SDK those thingies. It would > solve only one part of the pb, coze I'm sure they would use build > systems like cmake or the GNU autotools, then making the removal > of those for some basic sh scripts or basic makefiles, a real > nightmare (and I already put forward the issue of code > generators).
You could: - not use GNOME - accept that people will build things with scripting languages and that you will need them > ruby for grub2 Haha, what?
