> I'm bored of discussing XMPP+SIP to be honest, when there are more
> interesting things like Tox in the making ;).

luckily for you the single implementations in either category differ
far more than the protocols+extensions.

> Have you checked retroshare?
they don't even list udp hole-punching, only some stupid upnp-nat
handling (worthless).

> This  is  not a client for a mass market, but the masses can’t be saved.
Then who are you going to talk to?

> voice/video via DCC
Does it work behind NATs. Why is DCC so great?

The only thing I think sucks less than skype is mobile phones.

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