On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:34:58AM +0100, Nick wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:15:13AM +0800, Patrick Haller wrote:
> > On 2013-04-25 20:05, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
> > > while  trying to copy some stuff from iotop I came to the idea of having
> > > some ??halt?? function in st. This is like the ??halt?? in 9term, where  
> > > ev???
> > > erything  will  stand still but the terminal is working on the output in
> > > the background.
> > 
> > Why not let tmux or screen handle that? Does st really need an
> > (xon/xoff)++ feature?
> 
> I agree, we should decide whether features like scrollback, "halt",
> or reflowing belong in st or not. I personally like the idea of
> having them, as they're the only features I need of screen, and I
> would be keen to generally not need to run it but rely on my terminal
> for those functions.
> 
> But I know in the past scrollback has been rejected as "out of
> scope" for st, with the recommendation of using screen or tmux.
> 
I'm for keeping feature sets as small as possible and using combinations of 
programs when feasable (i.e. no insane performance impact). Frankly I'm now I'm 
fairly interested why would people need scroll back. I do not use tmux or 
screen. Well I use dvtm but I dont use scroll back functionality there. I find 
that "less" is mostly sufficient for my needs. And apps like etitors, for 
example vim, provide their own scroll function. And from what I hear scroll 
back sounds to be pain to implement.

As for halt, well I think it does not sound exectly like xon/xoff (correct me 
if I'm wrong). But again, I wonder what usese does it have. Though to be fair 
this sounds like quite simple thing to implement. So maybe this is better idea 
than scroll. Though that is provided that it indeed does differ from xon/xoff.

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