Greetings. On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:59:18 +0200 William Giokas <1007...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:12:00PM +0200, Christoph Lohmann wrote: > > Greetings comrades, > > > > I have been rediscovering pkgsrc due to the inability of the Arch devel‐ > > opers to keep to their principles. I know pkgsrc has its merits because > > of its portability, but it’s flexible. > > Might I ask what principle they're not keeping to?
[0]. »Arch Linux retains the inherent complexities of a GNU/Linux system, while keeping them well organized and transparent. Arch Linux developers and users believe that trying to hide the complexities of a system actu‐ ally results in an even more complex system, and is therefore to be avoided.« »Simple design and implementation shall always trump simple user inter‐ face.« Systemd anyone? It's a Windows configuration replacement for dummies. »The openness principle extends to its community members as well, as Arch Linux users are very open with assistance and contribution.« Systemd and the removal of sysvinit was enforced without any openess or any consent. The scripts were removed due to some developer having the horizon of a blind kneeing ant in the dark with justs him and his cat as participants of the census how many people want systemd. »A freshly installed Arch Linux system contains only basic core compo‐ nents with no automatic configuration performed. Users are able to con‐ figure the system as they wish, from the shell. From the start of the installation procedure, every component of the system is 100% transpar‐ ent and accessible for instant access, removal, or replacement by alter‐ native components.« I don’t need to say anything about that. »A freshly installed Arch Linux system contains only basic core compo‐ nents with no automatic configuration performed. Users are able to con‐ figure the system as they wish, from the shell. From the start of the installation procedure, every component of the system is 100% transpar‐ ent and accessible for instant access, removal, or replacement by alter‐ native components.« The »basic core« shouldn’t be using systemd or udev. You can boot Linux into udevtmpfs and no init scripts without systemd and just a simple busybox init. Then run and install whatever you like. Systemd is en‐ forcing dbus and systemd. They are now enforcing systemd for the basic network management [1]. So if you really think Arch Linux is still keeping to what’s said on that PHP page in a web wiki, well, you are blinded and seem to use Gnome shell because it’s »light« and »fits your needs«. We have camps in Siberia for such people. Sincerely, Christoph Lohmann [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way [1] https://www.archlinux.org/news/netctl-is-now-in-core/
