On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:15:54PM +0100, Bernhard Leiner wrote: > > I attended the talk and as far as I understood it, the Weston > reference compositor will provide some kind of interface that can be > used by alternative window managers. There was a question in that > direction at the end of the talk.
I'm sure there will be shitloads of interfaces that can be used, and once again 90% of software released will require certain parts of wayland and ignore others. As far as I can tell the only positive thing anyone has to say about wayland is "it isn't X." I'm not entirely sure it's worth trading network transparency for ground-floor compositing... but hopefully we'll at least get some video drivers out of it that work without x11. Oh, and it only works without x11 on linux. Hooray. (I know someone will say "but that's just weston! someone could implement wayland on any platform!" but all that means is we have another set of software like gnome and everything poettering ever wrote, where linux usually works and every other posix system is an also-ran.) In short, wayland manages to push everything including rendering onto the client, which means it's just going to get harder to write graphical programs without a toolkit. I regard this as a major flaw; this 'design decision' can only be the product of either laziness or poor judgment. If you're going to write a gui, at least have the sack to write a whole gui.