On 8/3/2010 12:41 AM, Wolf Tivy wrote:
I find it useful to be able to edit files using my regular editor
after I break X, or if I don't feel like starting it up.
X doesn't break that often for me.
I like curses stuff even in X because it is nice to open up an editor
and have it tempoarily reuse the terminal window without spawning
another and thrashing my layout. Furthermore, as a bit of an
Usually I'll have acme always running and just plumb stuff to it.
Actually you can almost live inside acme like you can live inside emacs.
aesthetic concern, curses editors inherit the color configuration of
the terminal, which is convienient if you are into making things look
nice.
It was suggested before that a curses interface would be a good
idea, so I am assuming that I am not the only person who would
appreciate it.
Very few people use sam to begin with, even fewer would like the curses
interface. I'm guessing no more than 20 people.
I might be happy with the p9p samterm, but I can't figure out how
to get it standalone from the rest of p9p, or what kind of
Not sure you can. Why don't you want p9p? It's got a lot of cool stuff
in it.
aesthetic variations are possible (font?, color?). These issues are
I think you can change the font by setting the font environment
variable, but there's no syntax highlighting because Pike doesn't like
it. I used to think that was an important feature also, but after using
acme for a while I don't miss it at all. I also don't miss wasting a lot
of time obsessively trying to write highlighting scripts for custom
languages in vim.
not that big on thier own, but combined with the whole X-dependant
thing, it just doesn't seem worth it.
So that's my view on why a curses samterm is a good idea.
If noone is interested, I will survive with nano, but if people are
Why don't you just use vim? It meets all your requirements and like sam
has ed-style commands.
interested or if someone has started, I'm willing to throw some
time at it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Xu<joseph...@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: [dev] curses samterm
To: dev@suckless.org
Under what circumstance would you not be able to run sam's gui
and have
to resort to a curses interface? sam already provides a way to
connect
the gui to a remote host via ssh to edit files over a slow
connection.
I've even done this with an old Windows port of sam running
locally and
a remote linux host with p9p sam. So the only reason is if you
don't
want to run X on your local computer, which seems ridiculous
nowadays.
Rob Pike wrote sam in part because he didn't like having to
cursor
around in vi.
